Corbin Justice: ((indigo!))

Corbin Justice: ((Is this back timed for this afternoon?))

Michelle (Rauko): (takles!))

Knife: ((Figure we'll have the scene start in the park, early afternoon, and then we can take it from there as I'm not too sure how everyone plans to approach things))

Corbin Justice: ((Ok...and what are we uh, actually dong?))

Corbin Justice: ((*ggls* DOING, that is))

Michelle (Rauko): ((I am not sure... I just know Michelle is tagging *S*))

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((Blood is MINE once again!))

Knife: (they're investigating the company AllChem, did you read the big Forum post where AllChem is mentioned?)

Caroline McGregor: (errrr...I think that was my blood originally)

Michelle (Rauko): ((oh! *nods* yea true, sorry! mind clouded*))

Shadow's Blissful Silence: (Isn't is a bit premature to count those chicks before they're mercilessly torn t...errrr...hatched. I totally meant to say hatched!)

Caroline McGregor: (or hatcheded)

Knife: (I'm figuring the characters will want to discuss IC how exactly they plan to approach things. Once things get underway I'll jump in. Gonna feed one of you a bit of background info also)

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((Well, I'll get us started))

Aerin leans against a tree at the inner area of the Sept, his staff held loosely in his hand. The man looks tired...but ready. He's managed to regain at least some of his inner reserves with fitful rest, and he's ready to go. Whatever 'go' means. He's dressed in the usual get-up...trench coat, dress shirt, slacks. Headphones are in his ears, plugged into an IPod as he waits.


Michelle (Rauko): *and well... near Aerin, Michelle is going to be waiting, sitting, very still and quiet, just waiting*

Corbin Justice: He walks into the area eventually, unsure of what to expect, or if he'll be wanted or needed.

Shadow's Blissful Silence: And Bliss comes running in, slowing when he sees Aerin is still there. Panting lightly he grins and walks over at a much more normal glide. He's changed into leather at some point. Leather pants, long leather coat, black fishnet shirt, boots. His hair pulled back, just a ~gasp~ simple ponytail.

Corbin Justice: Aerin: "I was going to track down Lucien, my packmate. He's a Galliard, good at this investigation stuff. I'm not sure what you would want me to do...my forte is computers." Sort of.

Corbin Justice: A curious look to Bliss and he inclines his head.

Caroline McGregor: *Caroline is the last to arrive and she's walking quickly towards the others.* i'm late...sorry. *she apologizes.*

Michelle (Rauko): *the girl just peers at the ones arriving faintly, with those odd eyes of hers*

Corbin Justice: He nods to Michelle and Caroline.

Knife: (Dara is coming too, GG was eating dinner I believe)

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He looks up at Corbin and nods to him, pulling the headphones out. "Pardon? You said Lucian?" He nods. "Bring him along...we could use him." He looks over to Bliss and smiles, pushing off from the tree to nod to him. "Wow...you've dressed down. I'm impressed."

Michelle (Rauko): *blinks and offers Corbin a fleeting smile, looking off*

Corbin Justice: "I'll try to call him." Relieved, because he's not so sure what HE can do, without a keyboard under his fingers. He speed dials.

Shadow's Blissful Silence: His nod to Corbin might have been followed by speaking, but then he registers that Caroline is there and he turns to her quickly, lips twitching a little as he struggles to think of something to say, or possibly just to not tear out her throat. Not even Aerin speaking quite pulls his attention off of Caroline.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He blinks as he looks between Bliss and Caroline. "Umm. Bliss?"

Corbin Justice: "Lucien! Remember that stuff about *that* company? Turns out we're gonna investigate, uh....my bad, I forgot to tell you. You near the Park, man? We're in the inner sanctum of it. Can you get here?"

Corbin Justice: ~not noticing the Bliss/Carrie thing~

Corbin Justice: "Cool! People are just starting to get here. See you." Pocketing the cell. "He'll be here real soon, taking the subway."

Shadow's Blissful Silence: Wait...was that his name. Only his eyes move, until he can see Aerin. "Yes?" He asks. His voice is even lower than normal, no purr, no overdramatic madness, just a nice pretty smooth tone.

Corbin Justice: Relaxing now, getting his self-assurance back into place.

Michelle (Rauko): *another tiny peer to them, very quiet*

Caroline McGregor: *It's that baleful glare that Bliss is sending her way that makes her stop in her tracks. He was one of Stephen's friends...still is apparently by the look on his face. She swallows a few times before squaring her chin and returning his look with a firm one of her own.*

Dara: *wearing black hoodie and scruffy black pants with that backpack over her shoulder(no piercings for once), hood up and old style aviator goggles hanging about her neck she skitters her way towards everyone when she spies them*

Knife: (if anyone needs a recap..or has no idea what their character is doing here please PM me and I'll give you the run down)

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He looks at Bliss, straightening a little. Regarding the man, quite calmly, eyes meeting the other's. "Is everything going to be all right here?"

Lucien Bourikas: In the subway he packs up his guitar, pockets the little cash he had gotten, and takes off for the Cherokee he had parked at a nearby garage.

Corbin Justice: Looking now curiously between Bliss and Carrie. A glance to Michelle with a shrug.

Michelle (Rauko): *odd eyes meer Corbin's for a slight second, and she peers down, staying very quiet*

Lucien Bourikas: (I've kept up with the Forum, so if it's in there Im cool)

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "Oh...what manner of son would I be if I ignored my mother's cries for help to pursue the destruction of that Thing?" Thing gets a nice heavy emphasis. "I am far better than that. I'm hurt you didn't know better...." There is a trace of something playful and almost flirtacious layered over the fury.

Knife: (Caroline carries the basic information on AllChem, I'll pass it to Aerin as he's computerish also)

Dara: heyeverybodysorrybout .....whoa...*blinkblink, looking to everyone there as she reaches them and the tension in the air*

Corbin Justice: He smiles and nods to Dara, though his gaze flickers to Bliss in what could pass for puzzlement.

Corbin Justice: ((And I re-read it thoroughly to jog my memory.))

Lucien Bourikas: He doesn't run, but does walk briskly from the fountain, having just changed pants in the back of the Cherokee to his black, dedicated jeans - just in case.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "That's not what I asked, but I'll assume it to be 'yes.'" He shakes his head and sighs, looking up to Dara with a smile.

Caroline McGregor: *Her eyes narrow at Bliss's words. So that's the way it is, is it?*

Michelle (Rauko): *Well she is still quiet and silent, not really looking at anyone, as she waits for them to move, fidgeting faintly*

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((As a logger, I'm going to ask that PM's and OOC comments be kept to a relative minimum because of the room they're in. The Open rooms have a tiny amount of space before posts start to vanish for some reason, as you all can probably tell.))

Corbin Justice: He looks to Carrie as if he might apologize on behalf of all Garou for Bliss' words, but he doesn't. He sighs, wanting to get started.

Dara: hey, uh...cor...hippyman...everybody..*blinking and nodding to them, nibbling where the lipring usually is slightly* it um...ok for the decidedly 'non' predator type to be about right now?

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He gives Aerin an annoyed look, but even abjectly enraged by Caroline's assumption she should remain in his presence without even so much as apologising and Aerin having forgotten he's not about to let her get in his way he doesn't look about to hurt him. He turns to look at Michelle with a smile that's more bared teeth than friendliness for all he's trying. "Hey-hey, ghost." His voice at least, is better. Less psycotic killer, more glad to see people he knows.

Michelle (Rauko): *blinks, peering faintly up to Bliss... before she murmurs* goodeveningRhya

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He glances at Dara with a soft laugh. "Oh...I don't kill people who don't deserve it." He sighs heavily. "Aerin'd probably get in the way anyway. He's all with the giving peace a chance." He grins and steps toward Dara to offer her a hand. "Bliss."

Lucien Bourikas: He spots the group as he gets closer, making out Corbin's form the easiest, and moves to him first, nodding to the others assembled.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((And I'm going to be slow as well, because I'm going through a bunch of info just handed to me. Sorry about that.))

Corbin Justice: He smiles warmly to his packmate. "Hey, Lucien. Um, sorry for forgetting to tell you..." Typical.

Caroline McGregor: *That fury makes her wish she could break the rule and carry silver on her to deal with the enemies in front of her as well as the one's behind. She clears her throat, keeping those thoughts to herself.* I think we've all been pouring over the new information trying to find a lead we can start on. *She looks at Aerin.* I think perhaps we have one, however small and tenuous a thread it is.

Knife: (gonna change me skin)

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "You're fine, Dara." He sighs and looks over to Lucien, giving him an even nod. "Evening, Lucien."

Corbin Justice: He looks to Carrie, then to Aerin.

Lucien Bourikas: "Good evening," To the group overall, then a deeper nod to Aerin, "...Rhya."

Dara: bliss: yeeeeah , heh heh*soft half nervous half joking chuckle before she straightens herself and slips the hood back so her face is actually visable, long jet black hair(no bleach blond bangs anymore) spilling down her back, hand reaching to take his offered one* Dara...birdygirl, featherhead, birdbrain, pixiestick,mouth...whatever works....nice to finally meet ya bliss*petite and almost too pale/too thin, her hand is likely swallowed in anyone elses*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: *he meanders towards the gathering bouncing along listening to his tunes. He's moving casually perhaps not actually searching for the others but finding them by accident. He glances around at the assembled Garou and kinfolk* Yo...Mal says hi, whatcha all up to?

Corbin Justice: He inclines his head to Jameel.

Michelle (Rauko): *and after the little words to Bliss,s he goes back onto complete silence.... watching and listening*

Caroline McGregor: *Her lips tighten again and her hands clench a bit before relaxing. focus on the problem at hand, focus on the problem at hand.*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Ah back at work..such a shame. *he takes out his ear phones* I was feelin all happy there for couple weeks pretendin I was a Fangy.

Shadow's Blissful Silence: His head tilts suddenly, and though his eyes flick to Caroline when she starts talking and gives Lucien an absent nod, he seems excited and very much distracted by a new thought. "Raven?" He asks Dara very softly. "I've met no other kind of bird...."

Caroline McGregor: hello Jameel. *She says, more measured calm than quiet.*

Lucien Bourikas: He looks over Jameel, having heard the name but only now seeing the man in the flesh.

Dara: *nodding to bliss, soft clicking coming from inside her mouth* yup, dont know of any others m'self either...*bringing out a lock of hair thats hidden in the rest that has a small black feather tied to it*

Corbin Justice: He maintains his poise and self-assurance, staying alert.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Hey Carrie. *he smiles warmly at her * Everythin alright?

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He looks at Jameel and nods to him with a faint smile, and then back to Caroline. "Magadon uses a substance called Phasidol in the production of this advanced Fomorol that they're using. Phasidol is chemical stabilizer, created by a man named Jacob Wagner, that is sold to Magadon by a company named AllChem."

Caroline McGregor: *Her eyes flick to Bliss for a very moment but then she looks back at Jameel, shrugging a bit.* Sure, why wouldn't they be?

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((As in, he looks back to Caroline, as if elaborating on her mention of a lead. The words are to everyone.))

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Damn..sounds like some heavy shit. *he nods as if he knows what the hell Aerin is talking about. He moves to stand beside Caroline..perhaps a bit protectively. He smiles to Michelle as well* Hey Michelle. *he says to her quietly so as to not interrupt Aerin*

Dara: *when info starts getting spewed, no matter whos direction it goes, she starts listening, eyes alert and attentive*

Michelle (Rauko): *odd eyes peer to Jameel and she offers a little deferent nod, in silence*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He grins at Dara, delighted, and then settles against a tree to watch Aerin. Perfectly calm again.

Corbin Justice: He listens closely to Aerin.

Caroline McGregor: *Nods.* Allchem seems mainly to be research and development. They're small, only about 50 employees, but almost half are scientists. I haven't been able to find any link to Magadon beyond the Phasidol. However, a short time ago Magodon instigated an unsuccessful take over of AllChem which was stopped by the Board of Directors.

Corbin Justice: "Remarkable," he comments. "Usually the little companies fold to the big guys."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: (Baseball is angering me, so..watch out)

Michelle (Rauko): *and then tilts her head, listening to Aering and Caro*

Michelle (Rauko): ((*hides*!))

Dara: *she mouths a silent 'wow' at a magadon takeover being stopped, thoughtful look to her face but listening further first*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: So what we gonna be lookin for? Gonna try to find out more bout this company..try an infiltrate it?

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "So, are we thinking of attacking the point of contact to the drug? Even to me, destroying a company that makes a part of a process if they aren't part of it sounds extreme, though if they alone are the ones who know how to prepare it it may be better that knowledge stay buried."

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He nods. "Which would indicate to me that one of two things is in play here. Either AllChem is legitimately independant of Magadon, and possibly has some other kind of backing...or perhaps it was an attempt to make them look independant. Regardless, nothing's for certain. It's certainly conspicuous that they would be able to fend off Magadon. However, what we do know is that Phasicol is pretty essential to Fomorol's production. We shut that down, we stop the Fomorol...or at the very least deal it a very serious blow."

Caroline McGregor: I'm not sure..the biggest glitch in their plans with the Fomorol is that they need the Phasidol in order to make it work. If we can stop production of it...than perhaps it will buy us some time to plan our next step.

Corbin Justice: "Do they work on government projects, do we know? Does it go to that level? And if they're a public company, we may be able to look into their finances."

Michelle (Rauko): *and then very hesitantily murmurs* whatif other...chemlab...makesit...th..thephasidol

Dara: who owns allchem? I mean...considering they stopped a takeover by 'them'and all...*blinking a bit again*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: *don't know nothin bout this corporate take over stuff* If they ain't connected to Maggydon *intentionally saying it wrong* then attackin them ain't a good course o action. Last I checked we ain't into killin and maiming of normal folk.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "I'm fairly sure no one else makes Phasidol. Wagner's worked at AllChem for 12 years now, and he's been the man behind the project. Further, AllChem has a patent on it."

Lucien Bourikas: "With a sample of the Phasidol, do we know of any chemists that could possibly find something that reacts to it, or even alters it?"

Caroline McGregor: But if we can deal with Jacob Wagner, the one who made the Phasidol....*She suggests.*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He shrugs lightly. "If they are determined, they will find another way. They will beg their gibbering master for it, nuzzling and pleading until he whispers his poison into the ears of other scientists. This would slow them, but they will reappear like cancer. We must destroy what lies at the center of this. If we are to cut them free of this drug, we must be prepared to press immediately to Madagon itself."

Corbin Justice: "Well else is Phasidol used for, if anything? Since they have a patent on it." Following up on Lucien's questions.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "No one said we're attacking them, Jameel. Not yet, anyway. But a little corporate espionage wouldn't hurt, if we can manage it."

Caroline McGregor: *She looks at Dara.* I'm not sure, who owns them. It might be a good idea to check that out.

Lucien Bourikas: He looks to Caroline, "What do we know of the man, personally I mean, anything?"

Dara: who else do they sell phasidol to though? chemical stabalizer could prolly be used for...decent amount of things if its thought about

Michelle (Rauko): *a litte nod to Aerin, and listens in silence again*

Caroline McGregor: Lucien: There's really not a lot about him that I was able to find. *not about to answer anything Bliss says. Leaves that to Aerin.*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Oh I'm down for some Monkey wrenchin..we Gnawers..dat's our speciality *his own version of the word specialty*

Dara: *nodding to caroline* has anybody spoken to the glasswalkers? last I knew they were one of the bigger 'into owning companies' types

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "The AllChem Corporation does. They're privately owned. And I don't know who or if they sell it to anyone else...frankly, I don't much care. There's lots of chemical stabilizers out there...the Goddess can do without this one, if you ask me."

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Have I missed any questions?" Since they were all coming pretty much at the same time.

Lucien Bourikas: "Everyone has a weakness, whether a person or some habit... something we can discover and use to our advantage. Maybe he even visits the local brothel secretly. Men like that always have secrets."

Lucien Bourikas: (Last basically to Caroline's response)

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Dis is who we got Birdy-girl. We been at this prollem for months now..this is who stands wit us to help take down this..whatever the hell it is..guess it be some kind o conspiracy.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Jacob Wagner's a fairly private man it seems, which doesn't bode well, usually. I couldn't find out much about him. He's worked at AllChem for 12 years, and the Phasidol is one of a lot of breakthrough compounds he's invented."

Caroline McGregor: There's a list of companies that have purchased Phasidol...mostly medical companies who are working on drugs to prevent heart attack and strokes. That makes our job that much harder. It's out there... and a good amount of it. I could try to get a hold of their shipping manifests...see who nearby has a supply of Phasidol.

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "More advisement than question. Because I'll slaughter people who've no crime greater than knowledge that should not exist - however, if their master has seen it, his poison will spread, even if by his slithering tounges creeping into the ears of new pawns."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Can we track them shippin the Phasidol an shit? Like with computers an stuff..maybe we can find out where that secret f'n lab is

Corbin Justice: "So basically, we need to figure out how we want to look into this and draw up a plan?"

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: *his eyes widen at Bliss' words. He looks to Aerin with a concerned glance*

Caroline McGregor: If he does, Lucien..it's not on his resume. *She says with a brief, not particularly humour filled smile.*

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Quite possibly," he says to Jameel with a nod. "It's our best bet, anyway. Which brings me to where I was about to get to...the AllChem lab itself."

Michelle (Rauko): *she keeps listening, frowning lightly as she both treis to catch up with all the talk and think ... but they are talking, and keeps listening, tugging of her sleeves faintly*

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He doesn't seem to have much reaction to Bliss's words. Like he expected them. "Phasidol itself is not a knowledge that shouldn't exist. Fomorol is."

Corbin Justice: "So with Phasidol being a benefit as well as a harm, it *is* possible the company is not aware of what it's being used for by Magadon?"

Dara: hrm....well...since Im in on things Im guessing recons in order*nodding to jameel, half talking to herself half out loud, babbling as per usual* finding where its shipped to is a good idea, finding where this wagner guy lives maybe getting something on him is another...mebbe getting someone on the inside of this allchem place somehow unless thats already happening*chewing the non existant lipring again as she does that babbling to herself thing*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "So we leave the lab be and start hitting the supply trucks coming to Madagon long enough to disrupt their process and then attack. Leave the little company be if it is no direct threat."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: I ain't down for goin in an killin humans who ain't tainted. Sure as shit Mal ain't either, talkin like we gonna go in as some righteous death squad..fuck that..we ain't monsters. *spoken like the Cliath Bone Gnawer that he is*

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "it is possible, yes, Corbin. It's even likely."

Caroline McGregor: Phasidol is the only link between Magadon and Allchem. It's possible that Professor Wagnor once worked for Magadon..and still does in a way. It's smart of them to spread their operatives out like they seem to.

Corbin Justice: Softly, "Hit the Magadon shipments," he says in agreement with Bliss.

Lucien Bourikas: He looks over at Bliss, "Perhaps make them think street thugs attacking the trucks hoping for things to manufacture illegal drugs?"

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "No, we are Garou, and we have a sacred duty to Gaia to destroy the Wrym at any cost. Our claws are far more merciful than the slow soul poison the Wrym offers them. Whatevery mockery of life remains to them will be agony. And that is what all of your precious innocents are doomed to if we fail. Remember that."

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "The SS wasn't tainted, Jameel. Neither were the scientists that designed the showers they installed in Auschwitz. But they all helped Hitler visit a great evil upon this world." He looks at the Guardian calmly. "And while hitting Magadon's shipments the first time will work, we're going to lose the element of surprise the second time. And the third, and so on. It's an option...as distraction, perhaps. But we need to stop it at the source. Which may...I do say ~MAY~...mean killing Wagner and destroying all records of the process to create it."

Michelle (Rauko): *wincing a bit hearing Bliss, keeps tugging at her sleeves, listening*

Lucien Bourikas: "Then there has got to be some way to find out more on the good Professor. That well known perhaps someone going to med school, or something similar might request an actual interview with him for a school paper, or newspaper?"

Corbin Justice: "Has he done any publications? Most do, even those keeping a low profile."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: At any cost..*he shakes his head an looks down* I'll help..but I ain't no murderer. Ain't gonna be killin me no dude who makes $16 bucks an hour on the night shift as a security guard..got imself a wife an kids to support. Fuck that. I know you ain't like that Aerin-rhya...I know you ain't.

Dara: if theres a patent on it who knows how many copies of what and how to make it is out there, let alone if the patents been on there for how long?

Lucien Bourikas: He nods slowly, "I'm sorry, but I agree. Wars kill hundreds of innocents as well as the soldiers, and to destroy the greater evil if we can, even if it means a few must die. We can try to prevent it, but not at the cost of eliminating the source. Think of the ones who would be saved in the end."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: You all some cold fuckers. *not meant to be disrespectful. He is a Bone Gnawer after all* Combat the Wyrm where ever it dwells and whenever it breeds. Nuttin in that tells me smash up anyone who gets in yer way.

Caroline McGregor: *When it comes down to the nitty gritty..she won't be the one holding the gun, so she has no call to add her opinion..but she understands Jameel's concerns and gives him a nod of support.*

Corbin Justice: "I prefer a more subtle approach than smash, kill, and grab. I just don't know what would be realistic in this scenario. I don't have enough information."

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "And when that man is exposed to drugs that make him a fomor, when he comes home and devours his child before he rapes his daughter...what have you accomplished? How much suffering have you truly spared them? You do not live in a world that has answers that lead to riding off into the sunset. This is war, and you were chosen for it, born for it. To reject that truth is to reject your Mother even as you abandon her to die."

Michelle (Rauko): *She just stays quiet, listening, quiet and still expect for heands on the tugging of her sleeves. Odd eyes staring a bit off and relatively down. *

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "No publications that I was able to track down. Honestly, we just need to get to the Professor, Lucien. Once we get to him, we'll find out everything we need." He looks at Jameel. "No, I'm not advocating killing the $16-an-hour security guards. However, I would have killed Oppenheimer to have avoided Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Chernobyl, and all the Wyrm Taint splitting the atom has spread across this world."

Caroline McGregor: I don't think they're talking about destroying everyone who gets in their way. *she hopes.* But unfortunately...they're will probably be innocent people, truck drivers, delivery men, guards..who are going to get hurt, even killed before this is done.

Lucien Bourikas: He looks to Jameel, "I wasn't suggesting cold blooded murder, but think of that guard's wife and children... if they get some of this poison? What is to help them then? Having their father alive will not mean anything if this continues to spread. What is the old saying? The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I said we could try to prevent killing innocents, but there might not be a choice. They are dead anyway if we don't, in one form or another."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Kill the fuckin fomor, smash up Maggydon's lab..we can find it wit dis can't we? That fuckin lab we been yappin bout for weeks now..now we gonna go off on some scorched earth crusade to wipe things off the face o the planet. What if them fuckers at Maggydon play by the rules...they know how to make Phasidol...they just don't cause o that patent shit

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He gives Lucien an approving nod.

Corbin Justice: He makes a pained expression at Bliss' words, and has to bite his tongue.

Dara: so...the professor works exsclusively at allchem, and is a private guy, done a few big chemical things at the company and been with them for a while, so would he still have files on him in whatever human resources department allchem has?

Lucien Bourikas: He nods to Aerin, "That is what I was thinking, Rhya. But to get close to him, if he is like most, the thought of a bit of fame, even with a mere student or a reporter might get him within our reach. Or at the least give us some other possible clues into his private life."

Lucien Bourikas: He nods back to Bliss as they seem to at least be of one mind at the moment.

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "It's not a formor yet. It's a faithful husband who is deleriously happy at the birth of his son, at the chance to raise another child, at the vacation he'll go on next year with his wife. Will you let the Wrym take their love and their sanity before it takes their lives, or will you offer him the mercy of a swift death before destroys the family he cherishes?" His voice is still quiet, edging into frustrated, but not angry.

Lucien Bourikas: (bit of fame, or talking about himself - please add that other little bit, was typing too fast)

Shadow's Blissful Silence: [....before HE destroys the family he cherishes?"]

Michelle (Rauko): *she then wihspers* do we...you..knowwherehelives?

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "And for the record, folks, while we're on the subject...Security. Securimax, the company that contracts AllChem's 5 security personnel, is a fairly large company. And it's all very shadowy as to who owns them. It's not obviously Magadon, but Magadon isn't Pentex's only subsidiary. Consider that thought for a moment. I'm not saying they are something more, but also consider that we can do this without killing the paycheck collectors. We're Warriors of the Goddess, yes. We're also Hunters. If we can't stalk prey, then we've got some pretty serious fucking issues." He sighs...this is getting them nowhere. "Okay, everyone, STOP."

Corbin Justice: Bliss: "We get it," he says quietly. "There's no need for the dark drama. We understand, we get it, we will do what has to be done. Please, can we focus on strategy. I want to know what is happening."

Lucien Bourikas: "Most men, or at least the ones worth saving, would offer themselves to die before they would their families."

Caroline McGregor: I think..*She says thoughtfully.* that perhaps they've only recently decided to take over Allchem because the work with Fomorol and Phasidol is starting to come together and it would be more cost effective just to own the company outright. Unfortunately..what that will mean, once the Fomorol is perfercted...is that those employees, the ones that aren't laid off or quit, will be in danger of becoming Fomor themselves. But just because the possibility for it to occur is there, doens't make it right to kill them, or anyone just because of what MIGHT happen. We have to make sure we stop that critical point from occuring. Take out the key people who are the ones to make it work...just as Aerin said.

Lucien Bourikas: He lays a hand on Corbin's shoulder, just a tiny little squeeze but meaningful.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Fuckin A man. *he says in response to what Corbin said*

Corbin Justice: He silences, looking to Aerin intently. He tried to be good.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: His eyes flick to Bliss's a moment, sharing a look, before looking back. Waiting for everyone to fall silent.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3] -> Shadow's Blissful Silence: That look very specifically said "Was I this young and naive, too?"

Corbin Justice: Carrie: He nods thoughtfully to what she says.

Caroline McGregor: *and goes silent at Aerin's request.*

Lucien Bourikas: He also grows quiet at Aerin's words.

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He sighs and gives Aerin a look that clearly says Aerin is letting Jameel's education go on lacking its central foundations, but he does stop, walking over to nuzzle lightly at Aerin's throat, and then flopping down at his feet.

Michelle (Rauko): *she easely goes to utter silence, listening*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Gonna be tellin Mal bout that one. *he says out loud. Likely it's obvious who he's talking about although he looks down when he says it*

Shadow's Blissful Silence -> Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "You still are, when you let yourself be. Sometimes you just forget that you have me to be the one who has to hear the screams echo. It doesn't do to me what it does to you. I've never been human enough." He whispers as he nuzzles.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Our goal is threefold, people." He raises three fingers into the air, as if to accentuate the points, dropping a finger as he lists off each goal. "First: Get into AllChem, either physically, spiritually, or otherwise, and find out what we can about Magadon. That includes where the Fomorol lab is, any employees that may have links to Magadon, and any other ties AllChem may have to the Wyrm."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: *he falls silent and listens to the Alpha, least he's sane*

Caroline McGregor: *She nods. Some of those are easier said than done, but all should, hopefully be doable.*

Corbin Justice: He listens intently.

Michelle (Rauko): *listens*

Lucien Bourikas: He grows thoughtful at Aerin's words.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He's quiet for a moment when Bliss nuzzles him, and looks faintly pained, before continuing. "Second. Stop the shipment of Phasidol to Magadon, by any means necessary. Whether they have the knowledge to make Phasidol or not, they aren't, and if we shut AllChem down in that department, we can at least slow Magadon down, and give us time to plan the attack on their lab, assuming we find it via Goal Number One."

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((Sane? *Cackles* Silly Jameel.))

Michelle (Rauko): ((*hugs Rav* let him... he is still innocnet *S*hideS*))

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He rolls a little, onto his back to look up at Aerin. "We could try sending Cloud, but I doubt she is much suited to that. I'm not half sadistic enough to suggest Catie. What happened that girl who would fuck anything that moved? Your kin I think. Erin?"

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "And for the record, befor we start arguing, 'by any means necessary' means that we yes, if necessary, send Joseph Wagner off to the Dark Umbra. It doesn't mean any of the following: Arson, Explosives, or Mass Slaughter of the personnel at AllChem, unless we find sufficient reason to."

Dara: *slipping to a seat on the ground herself, legs folded up close as she listens quietly*

Caroline McGregor: *Wow..and she thought Arn could be insulting.*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: We got our resources right here, ain't need to be callin in no one else. We been getting the job done on our own till now. *he chimes in, mouthy isn't an uncommon trait for Gnawers, he's no different*

Corbin Justice: A glance at Lucien. A light shake of his head.

Lucien Bourikas: He makes a motion towards Aerin, "As to that third, Rhya, we also need to make sure that the good doctor has no close associates in training, or merely taking him out does us little good."

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "Just because people in this city need to be reminded they have a duty is no reason to leave them to play at being human and unfettered by a higher purpose."

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: His face remains neutral. "We'll get to plans in a second, Bliss." Last finger--the index, for the record, he's not flipping anyone off--drops. "Third. We set a trap for Magadon. We use this opportunity to try to lure them into making a mistake...one we can capitalize on."

Corbin Justice: Lucien: "The information may have to come from Dr. Wagner himself, though with the first prong, we will be attempting to learn all we can."

Corbin Justice: He looks to Aerin again, listening.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: What kind o mistake we talkin bout?

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He nods to Lucien. "That goes into Goal Number Two. Stop the shipment by any means necessary. If his assistants can do it, we haven't stopped the shipment."

Lucien Bourikas: A quiet whisper to Corbin, so as not to interrupt again, "Which is why I suggested the interview. Amazing how much people will talk about themselves to reporters or wide-eyed students who hold them in awe."

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He grins a little savagely to Jameel. "Funny you should mention that. I just so happen to have an idea."

Corbin Justice: A faint smile to Lucien.

Caroline McGregor: And what's that? *curious as to Aerin's plan.*

Michelle (Rauko): *and odd eyes actually peer to Aerin, still mostly listening*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "I would suggest we get to the point that we're planning and then from there start at the beginning. As Aerin wishes. I think...?" He rolls back onto his side, curling so that he just barely touches Aerin, perfectly content on the ground.

Shadow's Blissful Silence: [Or DLP if Aerin is taking that question before he can start trying to run everything for his alpha....]

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Definitely gonna be tellin Mal. *he mutters*

Dara: *still keeping quiet,fingers start to fidget with the raggedy hems of her huge pantlegs, eyes on aerin*

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He lights a cigarette...they're not in the center of the park, he's not polluting the Totem's land any more then he does anywhere else in the city. "We make it look like we made a mistake ourselves, and lure some of them into an ambush. Give them a way to find one of us. Or make them think they do. And we be ready for them."

Corbin Justice: "Who gets to be bait?"

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "What manner of mistake? And what manner of leading them to the ambush? That changes your best options for bait."

Lucien Bourikas: He nods to Aerin's idea. "Who gets to play bait? I would not want to unnecessarily endanger a kin for that."

Michelle (Rauko): *listening and fidgeting*

Lucien Bourikas: And yet again, the two lords seem to be sharing a mind.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "They want my daughter. They want Annette. Something tells me, based on something told to certain people close to me...they may want me, too." He shrugs. "And I don't mind being bait."

Michelle (Rauko): *blinks, odd eyes going up to Aerin*

Michelle (Rauko): *for a long second at least*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: I'm lost..

Dara: oh...boy...*blinking a bit again*

Kelsey Horn (PB3): Enter the skater girl. Her blonde hair is pulled back into a ponytail. Pale complexion. Blue-gray eyes. Worn jeans, blue t-shirt. Sneakers. A rather full backpack over her shoulder and a plain black skateboard tucked under her arm. She wanders into the Sept looking around when she hears voices. Pic: http://www.wodnyc.net/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=1&pos=62 *

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: d10: Per+Alert: 9,5,7,9,3,9,

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "Not that I'd like to tell you tere's a gaping hole in your plan, but the survival of bait must not be crucial to the plan. You're leading. We need you to give order should anything change. Michelle is kin. I adore Tori. They know I've lived with her. If you must use that plan, use me."

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He looks up immediately as Kelsey comes close, tensing momentarily, before he realizes who it is. He then quickly relaxes, smiling in her direction.

Dara -> Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: *daras giving him a look of major concern for him, probably being one of the only(or is she the only?) there that remembers how he was after the whole doctor/logorithm incident*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: What da fuck we talkin about? Bait for what? What's that got to do wit da plan he just outlined..

Kelsey Horn (PB3): d10: per alert: 9,3,5,8,5,

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Everyone lives, Bliss. Death is not an option, remember?"

Michelle (Rauko): *she peers to where Aerin, then back, fidgeting, before she murmurs* I'llhelp

Corbin Justice: A glance to Kelsey, a warm smile and small wave to her, attention back to the gathering.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: (Difficulty to see each other is 3, it's the middle of the afternoon, no need to roll unless you have the flaw: blind)

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Bait for the trap we're laying, Jameel." He waves Kelsey over.

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *She smiles at Aerin and waves a bit, including the other people she's met before as well, though she doesn't speak up. Looks like they're busy at the moment so she just moves up to listen.*

Lucien Bourikas: He looks at Aerin, then to Bliss. "Not arguing with you, Rhya, but should we offer something up to them that they so badly want? You have a lot of responsibilities, to a lot of people. To lose you would be a heavy blow to us."

Kelsey Horn (PB3): ((*L* Okay...gotten used to rolling when joining a scene ))

Caroline McGregor: That would perhaps bring the spirals out..but they've just been diversion to keep us from the real problem. I don't know if you've noticed..but they come out of hiding when we're gettign close to something they don't want us to be near. All's we need to do is reveal our hand. Carry on our investigations..but be a little careless..not too careless. They'll come running. As soon as they realize their precious Phasidol is in jeopardy.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Trap for who though? Ain't it them spirals who wanted yours and Carrie's kids? What they got to do with Maggydon and the Phasiwhatever?

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "The Spirals are working for the Professor who's producing the Fomorol at Magadon, Jameel. Which is why Alecia's been with them at every step."

Dara: *she furrows her brows and leans her chin on her knees, sighing softly*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "Well, just in case it's more optional than I was planning on, you don't get to play bait. If I refused Maia her will I can refuse yours on the rare occasions you're wrong. For this to work, their needs to be a leader in close proximity who can adapt the plan. Which will keep people from dying. And you're it, in the event you hadn't noticed, you're probably the only one we all trust. And in a life or death situation, one must obey orders without even a second's question or esitation."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: I don't get it...

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "You don't have to. Your alpha does." He looks at Jameel with perfect calm, he absolutely believes that. Thank Gaia he's following Aerin and not someone more like himself....

Lucien Bourikas: Aerin> "How did you come to that conclusion?"

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "I'm aware that they're distraction, Caroline. And they've been winning the game because of that. Why shouldn't we turn the tables on them, distract them? Make them wonder where we're coming from? It's only one leg of our plan, and furthermore, if we can wipe out a couple Spirals, it makes it that much harder for them to distract us. Weaken them before they can come at us full-force."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Fuck dat. Even the soldiers gotta understand the plan to play their role..Mal always be tellin me that.

Michelle (Rauko): *frowning, fidgeting, listening, though she peers to Aerin*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He sighs deeply and then looks up to Aerin. "May I attempt to explain?"

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Alecia is working with the Professor. We know this. The basket, anyone? The homeless shelter?" He looks around. "She's also been around every time that the Spirals have caused us problems. The Professor also attacked Michelle, much like the others have attacked other kin. Is it that much of a stretch to make a connection between them?"

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: I jes ain't clear on our goal. What's drawin them Spirals out gotta do with smashin up Magadon's lab or stopping them from making the chemicals an shit?

Corbin Justice: He simply listens, nothing to inject verbally for now.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Shit man..huge ass corporation..an that little girlie is some kind o integral part of it. *he shrugs* Don't be makin much sense to me

Caroline McGregor: Becasue that's just what they want us to do, Aerin. The spirals, the Professor..even Alecia at this point..they don't matter. What matters is the other part of your plan...this distraction of yours is just going to distract us. We have enough information now where we don't truly need anything from the Professor, or the rest of his ilk. You have made a point of trying to make us focus on what we need to do...you need to focus on that too.

Lucien Bourikas: Again he grows quiet and thoughtful, watching the pieces of the puzzle Aerin is filling in.

Lucien Bourikas: (watching=listening)

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *Corbin seems to be just listening like herself so she moves over to murmur quietly to him, not wanting to disrupt those actually planning.*

Corbin Justice: "I think we need to take it in pieces, like you set out, Aerin-rhya. One, two, three. Drawing out the Spirals...it seems to be a different focus."

Dara: *shaking her head, brows still furrowed as she continues listening*

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *She gives Corbin a "Well, Duh" look*

Lucien Bourikas: (brb, brb)

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: *he nods at Corbin and Caroline's words*

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *And so he joins the conversation, she shrugs a bit and goes back to listening.*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "The spirals are part of Madagon's plan. They work with Madagon, just as Alecia does. This is more than a lab. This is the army of the enemy. Hiding behind the fascade of a human company does not make them a human company. Just as humans are oblivious to the greater nature of this park, but it is, this company may have a greater nature, or possibly simply be the tool of something even larger. And that thing may not really be a little girl. The world is fantastic and terrible...you must not forget that, or it will catch you unprepared and strike. They want our kin, the love to take them...for their usefulness and to drive us wild with grief. The Wrym thrives on confusion and pain. It makes sense they try to play these games here and now, but we must not play by thier rules. We must change the rules, the board, bribe the judges...whatever we must - but we must win."

Corbin Justice: Faint grin at Kelsey. A casual shrug. Brat that he is.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Magadon is a Wyrm-ran company, Jameel. We..." He sighs. "Just...trust me. We know she's associated, okay? Magadon's more then just a corporation. Spirals work with it. Maybe not directly, but they're certainly involved." He looks at Caroline. "Has everyone missed the part where this is one of three goals, all accomplishable in the same swoop? This is a misdirection. We're doing what they're doing right back to them. They hit our kin, they make us angry, they make us afraid. Fear is power, people. And it's time they started remembering that they should be afraid of the Goddess...and her army. It will weaken them. Make them make a mistake."

Michelle (Rauko): ((sorry had to space))

Corbin Justice: "Magadon is the third stage. The first is All Chem, gathering information on the company, the drug, and Dr. Wagner."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: *he shrugs after Bliss speaks* I agree wit dem two. *speaking of Caroline and Corbin* Dat little bitch she be handin out tainted candy..they could find someone else to do that..big nasty one Bigmack (Grshthak) he's part o some huge plan? Seems like he just like chaos to me..

Michelle (Rauko): *she is listening very still. Her eyes blinking, and peering straigh with a faint little frown and a nearly invisible shiver*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He just drops his head to the ground with a sigh as Jameel fails to comprehend basic truths of, well...everything.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: These fuckers dey be makin soldiers right now man! Spirals, they dangerous no doubt..but I ain't gettin the feelin that dey be more than soldiers. Cept that Professor a-hole..he's one we gotta stop..and he only shown is face once

Caroline McGregor: We're doing what they want us to do. You want to use someone as bait and see if you can draw them out...the spirals..WHY? What will that accomplish. They are just there as diversion...nothing else. Having anything to do with them is just diverting us. We have enough on our plates trying to figure out Allchem and figure out how to stop the production of Fomorol.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Why you just gonna stop listenin to Carrie now..she been here for the whole ride..jes like you. She's seen it all first hand *he says this more quietly as he takes on a slightly more defeated posture*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "Do not underestimate your enemy. Your certainty that he is no more than he seems and must be less than you fear is part of the reason the war is not run and Spirals breed like rats. If they were simply the chaos you see, what resistance would they provide the army of Gaia?"

Lucien Bourikas: (bk) "Chaos is the center of the problem. Keep us running like chickens with our heads cut off, make our kin fear of going out and having lives. The enemy churns its tail in chaos."

Michelle (Rauko): *and perks, frowning, closing her eyes a moment, her eyes opening wide a moment, before she reaches and trues to rub them and stare ahead of her, frowning more*

Lucien Bourikas: (*drops head* Was trying to catch up, put post in right spot)

Corbin Justice: He nods agreeing with Lucien. "We need to narrow our focus, at least at the start. If we try to move against everything, and draw the Spirals out in the process, we're fucked."

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "Those Spirals may well serve as guards at Madagon. And the fewer guards when we strike the better. Not to mention if they think we have fallen to their misdirection they may continue their plans to nip at our heels and never realise with the agonising closeness of what they see as prey that their death calls softly on the wind."

Dara: *glancing over to michelle, she scoots quietly towards her, digging in the pack, and brings out a bag of gummyworms(mmm sugar) offering them to her, still listening though*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: I ain't understimatin em! Shit..just tryin to focus on our main foes. The company man, the company! They the dangerous ones..be spreadin their poison..we gonna tip or hand to draw them out. That be like the Spirals layin a trap to draw me out! What the fuck dat gonna accomplish?

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: (our hand, and by them he means the Spirals)

Michelle (Rauko): *even though she winces faintly, nearly, nearly reaching to put both hands over her ears, but she really wills herself not to*

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *She continues to listen quietly not going to speak when she doesn't know all of the story.*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: We holdin -A- card.. we got one Ace! They got the rest o the deck!

Michelle (Rauko): ((oh)) *doens't reay seems to notice Dara*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "Taking a warrior from us. One I may not agree with, but ne of the few passionate enough to be here, one who holds Gaia close enough to love her children so much he would try to find a merciful way to spare them. And at this point...more than ten percent of our total assembled force."

Dara: *sighing when she doesnt seem to be noticed, shrugging,she drops a couple worms in her mouth and gobbles them down, then looks to aerin, holding up a hand like she were in grade school or something*

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He rubs his forehead. "Why? I...Goddess Almighty. Because for all the reasons I've outlined just now, plain as day. We do NOT have too much on our plates, Caroline. We can ~DO~ this. We use misdirection. Shadow games. We trick them into coming to us. This is about hurting them on our terms. And preventing them from coming at us, again and again and again, throwing our focus off more and more while we try and do what we need. We trick the Spirals and we take them out...your son is safer for it, Caroline. Michelle...you and Annette are safer. We trueborn don't have to worry about as many casualties. We CAN stay focused." He doens't seem to understand how he can make this clearer. "What's more, do you think we're just going to let the Spirals get away once we've dealt with Magadon? Right now, we know where they are now. Once Magadon's dealt with, they may run. And then they become someone else's problem. Pass the buck all you want, guys. I won't let some other Sept deal with our problem."

Lucien Bourikas: "The only thing that I can truly understand is that a plan has been raised to go at them as a pack would a much larger prey. Each finding a place to strike to weaken it so it can be taken down."

Michelle (Rauko): *frowns, and moves like if she tried to straightend herself, slowly looking around, fixedly, *

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He smiles up at Lucien. "There. You have it. That is the plan."

Corbin Justice: "What about we focus now on strategy for phase one?" he suggests quietly but firmly. "The investigation of All Chem and Dr. Wagner. We need to let this last subject cool down for a bit."

Michelle (Rauko): *well and she seems to start going pail, as she gazes trying to look at herself, like if trying to find something, before she frowns and forces to focus, try to see something around*

Lucien Bourikas: Again a slight nod to Bliss. And for the Galliard to say anything that simply put is short of a miracle.

Michelle (Rauko): *shivering faintly*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: You all ain't be fuckin listenin to us. What the fuck we discussin this shit for anyway. Might as well just fuckin charge em cavalry style. Think they ain't got 10 Fomor for each Spiral? Fuckin shit man! We can take out Magadon's lab...take the Spirals after..we ain't know shit bout them Spirals. Just be makin assumptions! Little bitch be fuckin handing out candy! Tainted fuckin candy! What the fuck about that says they some kind o security force for the lab.

Corbin Justice: d10: p/a: 5,4,2,8,2,8,2,4,

Corbin Justice: He looks to Michelle. Curious.

Dara: *she starts wavering the hand held up in the air and clearing her throat, waiting still*

Caroline McGregor: You just don't listen Aerin. You've decided that you're way is the best when most of the people here are having serious reservations about your plan. You've forgotten that a good portion of us have been here from the very beginning. We know what's going on. We know what's going on ..we know what needs to be done...and yet..you won't listen to us. If that's the case why should we be here talking at all? Why don't you just tell us what we have to and we'll do it like good little soldiers? *probably as frustrated as he is at the moment.*

Michelle (Rauko): *doesn't seem to be noticing or looking at the people at least*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "Let us try a rough draft from the beginning. We begin at the beginning. We get maps, legal documents, infiltration, information. Meanwhile we play some cat and mouse so they think we're still helpless and confused. We set up our distractions. We hit a supply truck. We kill a few Spirals. If we can we strike at the company itself, money or government sanctions. If they are tainted they may be illegally dumping toxins. We get them looking in al directions, run ragged by the strain of knowing that we will come but not from where. And then we strike. Here the flushing of the prey, here the crushing jaws on a foreleg, here a bite to the shoulder, and at last here the snap of teeth and the spray of blood as we take its throat."

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *She clears her throat a bit.* Not to interupt but I think she has something to add. *She nods over at Dara so the girl can get the recognition to speak she desires.*

The Rusty: [*Peers in*]

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Yeah, hold up, lemme get Govenor Pataki on the horn right now.

Lucien Bourikas: "To my way of thinking, even if they aren't connected taking out a few Spirals is an excellent idea, regardless." He looks to Jameel. "Because said little girl is not picking that candy up from the five and dime, and knows exactly what it is. That means there is some link back to the place it is produced - a supplier in the middle. Part of the plan is to hit that middleman, part the one that makes it, and the other the ones that give it out. Or am I mistaken?" He looks to Aerin.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Caroline, if you'd like, I can." He frowns deeply at her. "Because that's what anyone else WOULD do. Why don't you go ask Gavin...rhya," he adds at the last, as if he forgot to, "Or my Elder, Eyes-of-Hecate, how this works? Why don't you ask Hagen, or anyone else? Usually, it goes they give orders, and you follow them. I'm listening. But the fact that I'm arguing instead of telling you all what to do is not a luxury you should be getting used to. The Leader Shall Not Be Challenged in Time of War. This...is War." He looks to Dara. "Dara! Yes?"

Michelle (Rauko): *Winces, making a tiny faint sound as she reaches again, to touch her face, then look at her hand, and closes her eyes yet again, narrowing them, like if she was trying to focus on something, moving slowy, with care, pressing her lips tightly*

Dara: *a flick of a smile to kelsey, hand wavering in the air as she hums the jeopardy theme song under her breath*

Corbin Justice: He glances around. Five Garou. Two Kinfolk. A Corax. He sighs and looks to Bliss. "With three of the five Garou doing this being Cliath, and two Kinfolk, and Dara...the plan is, in its way I'm sure, a masterful one, but completely impractical given what we have standing here now. We cannot spread ourselves that thin and pull off miracles. We are simply not that experienced, frankly."

Lucien Bourikas: Nods at Bliss, understanding it easily in those terms. "Or legs, shoulder, tail and then throat.."

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((Insert the 'rhya' after eyes of Hecate, by the way. *Thuds*))

Caroline McGregor: *She just glares at him and then turns and starts to walk away.*

Dara: *when aerin acknowledges her she grins, nodding, hand lowering* love all the planning and the killing and distractions and bang boom and stuff like that.,..but...how are we going to do anything if we dont have the right information first?*tilting her head slightly* so....shouldnt we focus on getting said information or somethin before we go tra la la down all those other tangents?

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Fuck dat! You gonna be commandin us to throw our lives away, Mal ain't never gonna sign off on that shit! Gonna be throwin kinfolk an a handful o us at an Army o Fomor. What the fuck good is that gonna do? Fuck this shit, this ain't the mission Mal be lendin me to y'all to help complete.

Corbin Justice: "Carrie and I are good on the computer, Lucien is good at ferreting information, and Dara is from reputation excellent at that as well. What are other strengths and resources we can count on?"

Lucien Bourikas: "Corbin, we don't have to spread out to accomplish it and make it look that we are as thin as we are. One night we hit a truck, the next night you sit and type on that computer of yours and perhaps another hacker cause something to happen, the next night a kin works at a demonstration against dumping...all small things but things that will act like little wounds and thorns in their sides." He looks to Aerin then, seeing him begining to become frustrated and grows silent himself at the moment before this discussion turns into a shouting match.

Corbin Justice: "Phase one," he says tiredly, rubbing his temple. "I just want to start with phase one. Information. Planning. Gathering."

Lucien Bourikas: Whispers to Corbin, "Hell, just hacking into their power supply and causing the lights to click off... any little thing to disrupt them."

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "I agree, Dara. The information needs to be gotten. I agree with all of you who are saying this...Corbin. Lucian. Kelsey. But for fuck's sake...Caroline. Jameel. Where have I...you know what? You're speaking without listening yourselves. I'm going to keep going. Anyone who thinks that their own indignation at being argued with is enough to walk away from the fight? Go. Like Caroline. I'm being argued with. But I'm staying. Now, let's get to information, like Corbin, Lucien, and Dara have suggested."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Our arguin ain't gonna be gettin us all killed Aerin-rhya. That be the difference plain to Corbin, me an Carrie..shit..I ain't even smart an I see that.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "And by fight, I mean all of it. The Phasidol. The Fomorol. Magadon. The WYRM."

Caroline McGregor: *She stiffens when Aerin speaks but keeps on walking away. She's had it with the entire conversation.*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Hack in, fuckers be findin us sendin 3 teams o 4 guys to wipe us out just for gatherin info from their computers. Y'all are loons man..what the fuck? We be 10..whe got no idea what they holdin! No fuckin idea!

Corbin Justice: "I won't walk away," he says quietly, though he wasn't addressed to do so. "But we have *got* to put this argument over phase three aside, or we'll never get started at all."

Michelle (Rauko): *and she stares slowly first to herself, letting out a ghap, nearly frightened, before her eyes move painfully slowly to her side, and open wide, starting to show horror, before she stares at some other point, she is deffintively shocked, as fear crips up, swallows, and... well for her.... the yell that comes is seem rotten in her troath with a mixture of sadness, fear and shock* DEAD.. They are all dead!! *oddly how her voice too comes... weakened*

Lucien Bourikas: He remains where he is, because in truth they are soldiers, and if Aerin gets tired of listening to suggestions made in the form of bitching or arguing, then he'll just say go do, and that's what they will do.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Well, then, if you have all the answers, Jameel, then you lead this fucking mission." That was a growl, yes. "Until you decide to, I'm going to get with the start of working on Phase One. Stay or go. Just stop arguing the fucking point."

Corbin Justice: Lucien: "And Jameel is right about the hacking. Our first hacking mission, we barely got away. There's no simple 'hacking' and I have no reason to think All Chem will be different."

Corbin Justice: He stares at Michelle.

Lucien Bourikas: He looks to Jameel, "I didn't suggest doing it from our packhouse, but from public computers. I can safely assume they already known entirely too much about us as it is but...." He blinks, looking at Michelle, who never speaks. "What?"

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He looks over at Michelle, blinking a couple of times. "Dead? Who?"

Shadow's Blissful Silence: His head snaps to Michelle and he crawls toward her. "Who...who is dead...?"

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *She too stares at Michelle*

Caroline McGregor: *Michelle's worse will give her pause though and she turns slightly to look at the other kin.*

Dara: *dark green eyes sliiiiide over towards michelle with a frown of concern*

Michelle (Rauko): *she doesn't really seem to notice any of them, is staring in horror... `plain horror and fear, ahead, then she seems to start following something, and kind of makes ot reach it... shivering in pains seems, staring, shaking her head, reaching like if to take something a hand or something* no...*that one muttered, frowning at soething her head half moving at where AErin is.. not seeming to -really- listen*... it's lost...*muttered, like she realisd* dead....*shaking her head*

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "What's lost...who's dead, Michelle?" He comes up close to her, his hand reaching out to rest on her shoulder.

Corbin Justice: Mumbles, "This is *so* not a good omen."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: *he moves to stand near Caroline. He whispers to her quietly* Don't go Carrie..run off an leave me ere by meself..that ain't cool. *he's joking it would seem, but it's not really funny*

Michelle (Rauko): *first yells... seeming in pain when Aerin touches her, but she never -sees- him, her eyes widening, and seeming trying to make an unhuman atempt to reach something* NOO!!! LEAVE THEM ALONE!!! *she'll even trash, weakly, like if every movement was really agony*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He slides his hand under Michelle's, almost touching, puzzled. "What killed them?"

Lucien Bourikas: He jerks a plastic flexible cup from his pocket, the type for camping and pops it out. "Corbin, go fill this with water from the fountain for her."

Lucien Bourikas: He freezes then when Michelle starts to thrash around, looking to Aerin to see if they should try to hold her, or if they should even be touching her right now.

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Michelle...Michelle!" He moves directly in front of Michelle, looking directly into her eyes. Dropping to his knees in front of the kin. "Stay with me, hon...stay right here. Who?"

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He shrinks back a little when Michelle flails, low to the ground, eyes on her. He looks eeriely like a hunting cat about to pounce.

Corbin Justice: He takes the cup and heads for the fountain. They need a Theurge.

Caroline McGregor: *She's watching Michelle, concerned for the kin but she looks at Jameel a moment.* You should make sure Michelle's alright.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Too many cooks..*he says quietly to Caroline* Ain't gonna listen to Jameel anyway..Bone Gnawers, they ain't know shit.

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *She just stands back, letting those that know the girl take care of her, watching with a concerned frown.*

Caroline McGregor: *She squeezes his arm.* Hush now. *She says gently, still watching, it probalby is best to stay away...besides...she wants to know who's dead.*

Corbin Justice: He comes back quickly with the water. As quickly as he can, anyway. "SPirit world? We should check."

Michelle (Rauko): *Is yet not seeing Aerin, for as much as he seems to try her to, eyes staring at something she is putting every fibber of herself into reaching, hell even impotent tears starting to run down her eyes* ANETTE, TORI LEAVE ThEM!! Ewan! *her voice still trying to yell, maybe just.... to stressed, like if she knew no one can come to help*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: [And decently soon I have to run. I work far too soon to stay up until five am - awesome as this scene is.]

Michelle (Rauko): ((*tries to tie Blis*hugs*))

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "Check." That's an order, given to whatever Trueborn will heed it. "Now." His eyes remain on Michelle, kneeled in front of her, hands gently but firmly on her shoulders. "Michelle...Anette, Tori, and Ewan are safe. I'm right here. Talk to me. Come out of it...please."

Lucien Bourikas: He stops Corbin from getting too close to Michelle, then looks to Aerin. "Who is with them now, are not those the ones at your home?"

Caroline McGregor: *Her eyes widen when she hears the children's name, alarm flooding at the sound of her son's, the hand on Jameel's arm tightens painfully.*

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "No, they aren't, Lucien...not all of them. They're in three separate places...one of them protected in the middle of an incredibly strong Sept."

Corbin Justice: He tries to bypass Lucien, enough to hand Aerin the water. "Lucien. Excuse me, please."

Corbin Justice: He steps sideways to check after the glass is gone from his hand.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: ~those who move into the Penumbral shadow see nothing out of the ordinary. Spirits abound in the center of the park, large trees, flittering spirits of butterflies and white mice scurring through the underbrush. It would seem that Michelle's second sight is not influence by any spiritiual presence~

Dara: *brows furrowing, she looks to the others, then looks about, finding a place to best slip sideways before doing so*

Michelle (Rauko): *Still sinked on it... and still semeing every single breath and action is paining her, she'll just try to reach, even if it seems without Aering she might not get to far, and wailing* NO!!! *just trying to reach, desperatedly, with another look around herself* no *is just really dispair* everyones gone.... *before she tries to focus and will herslef to just TRY and reach*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "They are not at our home here. Tori is at our home sept, I would not imagine the Spirals have gotten there. It is possible. Even if they have, it does not change wat we must do, our actions must not be forced by grief or rage." There is a soft undercurrent of horror in his voice at the thought of something happening to Tori.

Lucien Bourikas: He slips sideways quietly.

Lucien Bourikas: (*Beats page to update right*)

Lucien Bourikas: (Sorry about late post, page stuck on me there) He comes back almost immediately and shakes his head to Aerin. "Nothing out of the ordinary."

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "No one's gone, Michelle." He tilts his head, to look in her eyes. "What's going on? What are you seeing?"

Corbin Justice: He returns moments later, with a shake of his head. "Everything is spiritually at peace there." WOuld have like to have lingered, too.

Dara: *dara does the same as lucien when she comes back, soft clicking coming from inside her mouth as she sighs softly*

Caroline McGregor: *Like hell they can't. She takes a deep breath, forcing herself to stay still and hear the rest of Michelle's vision.*

Corbin Justice: ((I have to be getting to bed...))

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He finally takes the water from whoever has it now, looking at Michelle. A slight nod at Corbin and Lucien's words.

Caroline McGregor: (me toooooo!)

Michelle (Rauko): *she is shaking and shivering seems with some cold, her atempts to try and reach becoming less and less strongh as her reaching hand seems to start to loos strengh, she actually looks more then desperate as the strengh leaves her body slowly but surely... untill she slumps, her breathing even stoping*

Corbin Justice: ((Corbin will stay to make sure Michelle is alright, then leave. Thanks for the scene, KF! had fun.))

Michelle (Rauko): ((me too!!)) *

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He looks up and takes a deep breath. "Caroline, for the sake of...the child...you know however much I hate you I would protect Stephen's son...do not simply run to him. If this is somehow a trick they could be hoping to follow you to him and take him that way. Please...be careful." He pitches his voice just loud enough to carry over Michelle.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: (alright, we'll schedule something else soon. Thanks for playing those who must flee)

Lucien Bourikas: (Corbin gave the water to Lucien, who sat it on the ground at Aerin's order)

Lucien Bourikas: (*hugs* Talk to ya in a few days, take care)

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((Then can please have Michelle explain the point of the sudden vision, so we can finish up the scene? I don't want to pause this one, but everyone needs to go soon.))

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: You're a real asshole. *he says to Bliss*

Michelle (Rauko): *Before she sharply starts breathing again, she is though covered in cold sweat, her body, every inch seeming far to cold, her body taken by tremblors, before her eyes snap open again, seeaking around still with most of the dispair and horror, before they fall on Aerin, and stare, and double check.... before temptatively actualy reaching to touch him* you are alife....

Michelle (Rauko) -> Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((I was typping as fast me could *huggie*))

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "She was my brother's mate, before she took their son and abandoned him. Anyway, you're such a walk in the park, ne, sugarplum?" There is a very slight pause before he adds, "And if I said nothing and the boy died, that would have been creul. Offering her that warning was nothing near as petty as you would make it."

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Whatever man. Think whatever you want. I know Carrie.

Dara: *she just keeps sitting there watching and listening to whats going on with michelle*

Caroline McGregor: *She looks at Bliss like he has three heads.* you just have no....*she shakes her head, totally unable to speak.*

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *Is doing about the same as Dara, listening to the others as well.*

Lucien Bourikas: He throws a glare at the other two men, but stays near Aerin, watching him and Michelle

Caroline McGregor: *Her eyes widen.* I didn't abandon him..I didn't take Evan. Stephen left us. He couldn't handle being a father..he couldn't handle being a mate. How could he have ever said....*for the first time in a long time she's actually in tears and she just turns and runs away.*

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: Carrie! *he shouts but he just lets her go. Ain't nuthin a Gnawer can say to comfort her anyway. He slumps a bit dejectadly*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "This isn't about what I think of Carrie, this is about saving a child. You're trying to turn this into something it isn't. I don't like Carrie. Whatever. She is kin and therefore entitled to my protection, whatever I think of her. Unless or until she betrays Gaia, she is family to me. If you cannot comprehend that your personal feelings, whatever they are come second to the fate of your people and your world it is you who are less for that."

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He blinks after Carrie. That was unexpected. He looks faintly regretful, but then when he looks back to Jameel he's all cold again.

Jameel Walker ~Walkman~: *he shrugs* Whatever dude, that's cool, you're dark and mysterious. I get it.

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *She watches Caroline run off, then looks at Bliss, then at the others, er...*

Michelle (Rauko): *her eyes move faintly on towards the sound of 'yellings' and outburst, tensing yet again, her eyes scannign like if she was seeking danger, and rather grabbing onto Aerin now* ((hummm..... ))*for her oddly staring at him, murmuring tense* youwhere there.. theywere all death.. eveyone! I knowIwasdying.. they..ithadthechildren...shelaughed... theyhadit...something about a cycleclosed

Michelle (Rauko): ((*pokes for Ravyn...*whimper*))

Shadow's Blissful Silence: "I'm...yeah...you figured me out. Dark. Mysterious. I wear sunglasses at night. It's hardcore. You win. Will you stop trying to have a this arguement now, please?"

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He sighs and grabs Michelle, hugging her close, and looks to Jameel. "Go. Now. Bliss, we're taking Michelle home."

Dara: *sighing deeply, rolling her eyes , she flops back onto the ground and flicks a glance over to kelsey, raising a brow, then looks about at the others*

Shadow's Blissful Silence: He nods to Aerin. "You've got her? I'll carry her...."

Michelle (Rauko): *she is not going to refuse or move away, she actually seems to grab onto Aerin, after looking for the Moon, like if she wanted to make something sure, before really, just burrying herself agasit Aerin*

Lucien Bourikas: He doesn't ask if the meeting is over, that is obvious. He gives Aerin a nod, "If I can be of service, let me know, Rhya. I hope she will be alright."

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *She scratches the back of her head and shrugs back at Dara, then looks over at Aerin and co.* Um...hey...you, uh, got this or you need help or somethin'?

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: "I've got her." He nods to Lucien, simple acknowledgment of his words, and rises, cradling Michelle in his arms. "Let's go. Kelsey, can you come with us, if you don't mind? Dara, you can too if you like."

Shadow's Blissful Silence: [But the Fox is leaving to sleep! *flops* So tired....] He leaves with Aerin, finally just quiet.

Dara: *sitting up, blinking when shes included, she nods* um....kay....sure...*moving to get up and gather her pack over her shoulder, a gummyworm hanging partway from her mouth*

Kelsey Horn (PB3): *She nods.* Yeah sure...*She hikes the backpack up and follows along.*

Michelle (Rauko): *She is not moving much more, for the first time in her live having -this- reaction of caring after spurting things like she did, she seems to be grabbing onto it tightly...staying very still in Aerin's arms*

Lucien Bourikas: He nudges Corbin, and since they are not leaving they make their goodbyes and start to leave.

Lucien Bourikas: (leaving=needed)

Lucien Bourikas: (Is this site going crazy for anyone but me?)

Michelle (Rauko): ((is ok with me Lucien-p =)*hugs*kicks it once or twice ))

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: He nods and makes his way to the street. Thankful he brought his car this time.

Lucien Bourikas: (Thanks for the scene :)

Michelle (Rauko): ((thank you all too *huglez tightly about*))

Kelsey Horn (PB3): ((Funfun *hugs about*))

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((Sorry, guys. We wanna continue now, and pause when Kittie has to go (then resume), or just wait until she gets back?))

Dara: (tis up to you*shrugs*)

Kelsey Horn (PB3): ((Either or...Just waiting for other scene to die, then I'll go with fast food so I can get back faster))

Dara: (Ive got about two hours before I have to take husband to work if that helps decision any)

Kelsey Horn (PB3): ((Mmm...looks like other scene's about over. Gonna dash, get FM and food and be back asap.))

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((Let's go ahead and start it now. Off to MT Residence?

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((Or wait. *G*))

Kelsey Horn (PB3): ((*runs*))

Dara: (lets head to mt res to wait*nods*)

Aerin Thomas [PB 3]: ((On my way))