Hauser (PB 3): "Well, if you want then go ahead and make it up. I'm sure it will make alot of the guys happy."

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She nods~ Stop by tomorrow around six and I'll have a bunch of stuff ready, then you can just take it right there. Any preference on how the meat's cooked?

Hauser (PB 3): "Alright. I should probably then get back and finish that business I mentioned earlier." he says with a little grin. "And we're pretty open about things so make what you want."

Grace Brenner: Enter the half-Korean kin, wearing blue jeans and the usual glossy black jacket with the star of life embroidered over her heart. Her dark hair up in a tight bun, not a single strand loose, and her face untouched by make-up. A simple bandage on her left hand, and a tired look in her eyes.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She nods~ Ok. Whatever I don't get cooked up, shoot for sunday. That's my day off so I can make more then.

Hauser (PB 3): Hauser gets up and nods to Grace as she comes in and smiles about something.

Grace Brenner: Looking around the place, she spots Maya and her company - which, perhaps surprisingly, doesn't seem to bother her. Or maybe she's covering better than before. A nod to Maya, should she look her way, as she heads to the bar to buy a drink.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She looks over her shoulder towards the door, following Hauser's gaze as she takes a sip from her drink. She nods a bit to Grace~

Hagen: Hagen about that time comes downstairs, looking about the place place as he does. The large man is wearing black cargo pants with a white muscle shirt that shows off his muscles. He stops behind the bar to talk to one of the tendrs.

Grace Brenner: Her attention drawn to the large man, she looks him over curiously. They haven't met before, but by the description she heard she can figure out who it is. A nod to the man, polite, as she pays her drink at the bar.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She turns back around and leans back in the chair, a mild frown coming across her face. She sets the empty glass down, and orders another with a glance over to Hagen~

Hagen: Hagen returns the nod with Grace, and glances between Maya and Grace before getting a drink of his own but doesn't move from behind the bar for now.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She gives him a polite nod when he looks at her~

Grace Brenner: She glances back to Maya, and hesitates a moment, taking a swig of her beer before turning back to the large man behind the bar. "Excuse me... You're Hagen, right?"

Hagen: "Yes, thats me." he says to Grace.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~That peaks her interest, but she remains quiet for now, watching the two~

Grace Brenner: "Ah... Arn suggested that I introduce myself. My name is Grace Brenner." She smiles, friendly enough.

Grace Brenner: ( we're quadrupled )

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ((Multiplied! AH!!!))

Hagen: He smiles to her, "Nice to meet you as well." he says to her. Then comes from around the bar to head to a secluded corner over by the fireplace where he kicks to kids out so their got some privacy. "Care for a seat?" he says to Grace.

Grace Brenner: She follows, placing her bottle on the table and shedding off her jacket before taking a seat. "Thanks." Glancing quickly back to where Maya and Hauser were.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She simply watches. Taking up the fresh drink~

Hagen : "I imagine there was something you wanted to talk about?" he asks her.

Grace Brenner: "There was, I'm just not sure it it's... important, anymore. I've been out of tough and don't really know what's been going on. With the Reapers, mostly." She speaks in a soft voice, carrying to Hagen clearly enough but not much further.

Hagen : He nods some. "Well if you still want to talk."

Grace Brenner: "They seem to be... accepted around here, now." A slight frown, more puzzled than anything. "Do you approve of their methods?"

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She sips from the drink, and finally looks away from the two, diverting her attentions so not to be rude~

Hagen : He frowns some about her question. "That is not easy to answer. They thrive on making everyone question what they thought was normal or accepted. They have been doing this for a while, and are supported by some of the Elders of the Tribe." he says this all quietly to her. "Do I approve of pointless killing? Of course not."

Grace Brenner: "Then why allow it?" Her tone is questioning, not accusing.

Hagen : "Who is going to stop them? And why?" he asks her right back. "And you should know they've already gotten us dancing to the tune they want some of us to."

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: ((Room for another?))

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ((Sure!))

Grace Brenner: ( I don't mind :) )

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She sips the drink again, leg swinging aimlessly. Another glance over to Hagen and Grace, though still no move is made to interrupt their quiet conversation~

Grace Brenner: "Why were the Swords of Heimdall eradicated? From everything I hear these guys are of the same cloth."

Hagen : "Don't compare the two." he says.

Grace Brenner: "Why not? How are these guys any better?"

Hagen : He sighs some with a shake of his head. "Because they haven't been wrong yet." he says to her finally. "And if you were listening to what I am telling you you would perhaps start to understand. Killing those two Kin served their purpose. They've proven to who they answer to that they were an enemy of the garou. The fact that they were Gay was only a bonus. Maybe they only found the guilty because they were focused on finding something exploitable within the Gay community. I don't know, but they did it. We've got too many openly gay garou and Kin as it is that think just becasue Gaia made them them that way that they have a right to change thousands of years of tradition and expectations. Do you even know one of the Shadow Lords own Kin tried to force his male bisexual lover to dump the female kin he had been set up with?"

"The Reapers don't blindly pick the racially unpure or anything even if they try to tout that Nazi bullshit they do. I bet not a one even know Hilters middle name much less the true core believes of the Neo-Nazi they play to be."

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ((~blinkblink~))

Grace Brenner: She frowns, thinking that over. "What of the Fury kin, then? I don't see how rape can be... acceptable."

Hagen: "Another example of people jumping to conclusions. She was never raped, she lied about it to continue the lie her lesbian parents kept pushing on her. And you know what? Yolanda walked right into their trap. If it wasn't for some last minute checking Yolanda would likely be dead now. Or at least very hurt. You and everyone else jumped to follow the lie and they were more then happy to let everyone get worked up into a frothing mess over it."

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: The door swings open, and in she steps, looking around with a finely arched pale brow. The girl is her usual self, all calm and discipline. She's dressed in the same old outfit, all black and practicality. She glances around before moving to a table.

Grace Brenner: Her dark eyes widen slightly in surprise. "I can't believe it." She blinks. "I mean, I'm sure you're right, it's just... unbelievable that she'd do that." She frowns, troubled, and takes a long swig of her beer.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She sits, glancing occasionally at Hagen and Grace, but still not making any moves to interrupt. And her back is to the door, so neither does she see Annika come in. Leg still swinging lightly, and another sip from her drink is taken~

Hagen: "Yes... but thats the way things work. Selena finally went to talk to her. Asking the right questions and telling her what is at stake. I was pissed off too, but I went for answers and obviously lost a bet. Its a terrible world Grace, especially when our own Kin lie to cover up things they would rather not reveal."

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She raises her eyebrow when she notices Hagen talking to Grace, and Maya where she's sitting. She moves to take a seat at an open table, eyes flicking in their direction.

Grace Brenner: She frowns, nodding. "I guess I assumed that it had been... verified. Shoulda known better." She sighs, leaning back in her chair. "I'm not sure what to think, now." Catching sight of Annika, her frown deepens.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She looks up, catching movement from the corner of her eye and spots Annika. The already semi brooding look darkens, and she turns her eyes back over to Hagen and Grace~

Hagen: He nods some, "Thats part of what they do Grace. They turn the world upside down, make people question their ideas and make a brutal point about it. Their still dangerous though, they've got some old fashioned ideas about Garou society. If they think your weak, they'll kick your ass until you finally fight back. If you guilty of a crime, they'll gut you for it. If they object to your way of life... they just might make you regret that choice until you change."

Grace Brenner: Her eyes on Annika as she speaks to Hagen. "I already know they don't like me. Some of them, anyhow." Turning her gaze back to Hagen. "Don't know if they'll do anything about it."

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: The dark looks sent her way are met with an even one in return, and she orders some food from a waitress and water. No beer for her, it seems.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She takes another sip of the drink, turning her eyes back to Annika for a moment~

Hagen: "I don't know really. This is what makes them so damn annoying. They skirt the edge and know just how much to push. Your a Get, its more then just what nationality you are but if you don't prove that your as strong what they expect then you can expect to get on their list."

Grace Brenner: "They're not the ones who get to decide if I'm Get or not. I have the blood, even if I'm not exactly Aryan." She drains the rest of her beer in one long swig, then sets the empty bottle down on the table and speaks slowly. "I think I'm done worrying about what they think."

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She looks over at Maya, regarding her a moment before offering her a slow nod. "Miss Grimhild. Good evening. How are you?"

Hagen: He nods some, smirking ever so slightly. "And what does being Aryan have to do with it?"

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She returns the slow nod, but no warmth enters her gaze~ Hello, Annika. I am.. here. And yourself?

Grace Brenner: "Some seem to think everything." A subtle nod towards Annika. "I'm inclined to disagree."

Hagen: He chuckles some. "Good, so anything else?"

Grace Brenner: "I think that gave me enough to think about for a while." She smiles at Hagen. "Thank you for your time. I appreciate it."

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: "I am well." A purely for-formality smile. "Busying myself with my studies." She glances over at Grace and Hagen a moment.

Hagen: "Your welcome, you have a good night." he says while standing up with a look between Annika and Maya.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She gives Annika a blank look at the smile, then takes a sip of her drink~ So what is it you're studying this week?

Grace Brenner: A nod to Hagen as he stands, her attention moving soon to Maya and Annika.

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: "This week would be the same as I have been studying all semester. Politics of Policy-Making."

Hagen: Hagen makes his way to the bar, fixing himself another drink and just remains there while watching the room.

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She looks up at Hagen and rises when he stands and looks their way, her eyes dropping in that sincere show of respect to the man. Her hands come to rest at her sides, chin at an even tilt. "Good evening, sir."

Hagen: "Good evening." he says back to Annika.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~A slow blink~ Oh. I never really had a care to ask before. I still don't, but conversation once in awhile with you won't kill me I guess. ~She turns her eyes over to Grace and Hagen then, realizing their watching. Annika forgotten, she stands, nodding her head respectfully to Hagen~

Grace Brenner: She stands, picking up her jacket. Heading towards the exit, she pauses at Maya's table, her jacket folded over her arm. "You want company?"

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She looks over at Grace, giving a long pause, and then she nods once~ Sure.

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She smiles to the man, with more feeling then she did Maya for sure. "How are you, Sir? Things are well, I trust?"

Hagen: Hagen shrugs some, "Going well enough. Thank you for asking." he says and swigs some of his beer.

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: (open?)

Grace Brenner: She drapes her jacket over the back of a chair and takes a seat. "You feeling better?" Said to Maya, of course.

Grace Brenner: ( hop on in :) )

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She looks over to Hagen again, then over to Annika, and lowers back down into the chair before looking back to Grace~ I'm not ready to completely lose my temper just now if that's what you mean.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ((yupyup))

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: "Excellent to hear." She nods and takes her seat calmly, nodding to him. She glances over at Maya and Grace, eyeing them a minute before looking back.

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: ((Sure!))

Grace Brenner: "You seemed, ah.... a tad upset after the thing with Aerin." Mild understatement.

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: The streetrat steps into the place, shaking a bit of rain out of his shaggy locks. He's.. been cleaner lately. But it's his night off, so he considers it justified. He wears his army surplus jacket, has his pack slung over one shoulder, and keeps his board tucked under one lanky arm. Looking around for someone it seems.

Grace Brenner: A smile and a wave to Andy as she sees him enter, though she doesn't expect him to return it.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: Yes, well.. He and I have very clear lines we stand on different sides of. He thought fit to insult everything I was taught properly to know and abide by. ~Her tone cool, though not quite as cool as it was with Annika. She looks over to Hagen again~

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: He gives an almost surprised look at Grace's gesture. Moving lazily in that direction. Quiet.

Hagen: Hagen continues to stand behind the bar and listen to what is going on.

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: Her eyes pass to the door, watching Andy for a second, then looking back to Hagen, maybe a touch curiously. Any mention of the Child of Gaia at the nearby table is summarily ignored in terms of any visual cues. Andy is given a brief nod.

Grace Brenner: "It wasn't just you. He kept trying to pick fights. I left before he and Arn could come to blows." Not something she wanted to watch.

Grace Brenner: "Evening, Andy. Come to join us?"

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: He ignores Annika, moving quietly toward Grace. He gives maya a subtle nod before mumbling. "Grace.. I.. er.. I was probably being a dick the other day. My bad. I didn't mean to snap on you like that."

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She has her back to the door, but she does glance over when Grace waves. Gives Andy a nod, then looks back to Grace~ Arn was put in his place when Aerin pulled rank and then walked away. Excuse me a moment, I have something I need to go take care of. ~She stands, setting the glass down, and slips over towards the bar~

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: Andy stands there, awkwardly. He watches maya move off.

Grace Brenner: She waves a hand dismissively. "Don't worry about it." Her smile is genuine, if a bit tired. "Sit."

Grace Brenner: A slight frown as Maya walks off. Puzzled perhaps.

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: He nods and slumps down into a seat next to grace. Setting his board in his lap. "Uhh.. alright." He mumbles.

Hagen: Hagen continues to stand there, finishing off his second beer.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She stops on the patrons side of the bar infront of Hagen, her head tilting down respectfully~

Grace Brenner: "You look like you could use a drink." Flagging down a waitress, she orders two beers.

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: Andy casts dark eyes toward Maya. A hint of concern about him. Mumbling quietly to grace. "She any better?"

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She shrugs a little bit when Andy ignores her, and goes back to eating.

Hagen: "Yes?" he asks Maya.

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: "I've had a drink. I've killed about half a gallon of heaven hill since I saw you last. Had a little help.. but not much."

Grace Brenner: "I... don't know. Not a happy camper, I don't think."

Grace Brenner: A wry smile. "Did it help any?"

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: He shrugs. "Helped me stop thinking for a little while. Yielded a throbbing headache and a potentially broken female friend of mine. Little awkward.. but it could be worse."

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She lifts her head to look at him~ Good evening. I thought it proper that I come to introduce myself now that I have a face to go with the name. I am Maykaelia Grimhild, sir.

Hagen: "I know of you." he says with a nod.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: My apologies for not seeking you out sooner.... ~A pause, and a blink. Not sure whether that's a good thing or not~ It is an honor to meet you.

Grace Brenner: "I didn't mean to be pushy, back there." Thanking the waitress, she pays for the beers as they arrive. "I was just..." A small shrug. "Concerned."

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She quirks a brow as she eats, keeping her attention split between the two duos.

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: He nods. "It's.. straight. I mean.. thanks and all. I'm just not used to spilling my guts to people who don't know shit about me. It's not that you're not cool or whatever.. Arn seems to dig you. Or at least tolerate you.. with him I think it's one in the same. But like.. seriously.. my bullshit doesn't matter. You're better off letting it go. I'm fine."

Hagen: "Same here, we can talk more later. And now you know where to find me."

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She tilts her head once more in that show of respect, then turns, and returns to the table. A glance over at Annika as she settles back into the chair~

Grace Brenner: "He just wants to get into my pants." Said with a slight smile. "And I respectfully disagree on the not mattering." She takes a swig of her beer, pushing the other twards Andy. "Now, I don't expect you to spill your guts. But don't try the 'I'm fine' line. I know better."

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: He gives an idle shrug, wrapping a lanky hand around said beer. "You're right. I'm not fine. One of the only people I thought I could trust.. is being a dickhole, I got my ass kicked by a girl.. twice.. and my baby's dead. Life just sucks right now. But it's a waste of time pretending I'm surprised." He takes a swig from the beer. Eyes still down.

Hagen: Hagen watches Maya wander off, and looks to Andy more now that he's alone again.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She looks at Grace and Andy, then picks up her drink~ I'll leave you guys to talk. ~She stands again, giving Andy a soft pat on the shoulder as she moves towards Annika's table, and a nod to Grace~

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: And right about at Andy's comment about a dead child is where Annika looks down and stops eavesdropping on Andy, Grace, and Maya's table, focusing fully on eating. She looks down as she does so.

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: He looks up to Maya. "You.. don't have to do that. It's straight. Only reason I'm even here is the rain.. and the off chance that your brother might be around."

Grace Brenner: "If you mean Aerin, I don't think it's that simple." She frowns softly. "I mean... I'm not defending anything he's said or done, I can't say that I know him well enough. But I think something's... wrong with him."

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: "Of course something's wrong with him. He's dellusional. He wants to give the illusion that he's this allmighty save the world kinda fucker.. but if helping someone else means inconveniencing himself.. he snaps. Fuck Aerin. He's a bitch."

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She looks up at Maya as she approaches, watching her calmly.

Grace Brenner: "Mmm." Noncommittal. "So who kicked your ass?" Keeping to the less touchy parts of what he said, or so she hopes.

Hagen: And he turns going upstairs to where his room is probably.

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ((~Punts computer~))

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She looks back to Andy, giving him a bit of a smile~ It's ok. I actually have something I need to do. ~Her gaze returns to Annika, watching her for a moment~

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: "Brice." He takes another swig of the beer. Slumping a bit in his seat. "She kicked me out.. then got pissed because I left. Women are fucking insane.. seriously. I mean.. it's not like I'm going to hit her back.. but I told her not to get worked up like that. Fucking told her to calm down.."

Grace Brenner: "Your girlfriend?" Not even going to argue against the women are insane part.

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She returns the look, evenly. "May I help you, Miss Grimhild?"

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: "Something like that. Not so much anymore. I haven't talked to her since finding out what happened to the baby. I think it's best I keep my distance."

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~The corner of her mouth twitches. The only sign of any real emotion~ Would you mind going for a walk with me? I'd like to discuss something with you.

Grace Brenner: "I don't know. I mean... I can't be sure, since I don't know her, but..." She hesitates a little, before continuing in a soft voice. "I don't know what happened, and it's not my place to pry. But if you want to talk about it, I'm... here."

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She watches the woman a moment, curious perhaps.

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: d10: Per+Emp (Maya): 1,10,10,5,

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: "She's a bitch." he mumbles. "She didn't even tell me she was hitting the hospital the day she miscarried.. then proceeded to revel in the fact that I'd be thrilled at the news.. and the easy out it presented. Fuck. Brice." He takes down the rest of the beer, dark eyes subtly narrowing. His mood slinking back to its usual brooding low.

Maya Grimhild [PB3] -> Annika Brandt [PB 5]: ~She's on edge, but it doesn't actually seem to be towards Annika.~

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She simply waits, one eyebrow raising~ I promise, it's not to follow through with the words that were exchanged the last time we spoke.

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She rises to her feet, nodding. "Of course. Lead the way."

Grace Brenner: "Like I said, I don't know her... but I doubt any woman would revel in a miscarriage. Grief can make people say things they don't mean."

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She finishes the drink, and sets it down on the table, then turns and heads for the door~

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: "I just about griefed her upside the fucking dome when she said that shit. I've ~never~ hit a girl.. even when she was wailing on me.. but I came close that night."

Annika Brandt [PB 5]: She follows behind Maya, giving a last look to Grace and Andy...and a rare look of sympathy, before she's gone.

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: He frowns to annika at the look. Slumping a bit in his seat. Maybe trying to be invisible.

Grace Brenner: "Do you really think that's the kind of person she is? I mean... I'm not saying it's okay for her to say stuff like that. But do you believe she meant it?"

Andy Gallo [PB 2]: He shakes his head "I don't care anymore.. it doesn't matter."

Maya Grimhild [PB3]: ~She steps out the door~